By Golden Artist Colors
At Golden Artist Colors, we’re deeply committed to developing and supporting materials that reflect the real-world needs and preferences of artists. That’s why we regularly turn to professional painters for insight—not just about how our products perform, but how they feel, mix, and function in the studio.
Earlier this year, we reached out to a select group of oil painting instructors at leading ateliers and studio schools around the world to participate in a focused evaluation of YInMn Blue (Yttrium Indium Manganese Blue), a relatively new pigment discovered in 2009. Twelve artists who received our curated sample boxes completed a follow-up survey about their experiences with the pigment. Their responses revealed a rich mix of insights—some expected, others surprising. Here’s what we learned.
YInMn: A New Experience for All
Interestingly, none of the participating artists had used YInMn Blue prior to receiving the sample set. This gave us a clean slate: first impressions from experienced hands.
When asked about their go-to blue pigments, eleven of twelve artists said they primarily rely on Ultramarine, with only one identifying Cobalt Blue as their mainstay. This helped frame comparisons throughout the feedback.
How Does YInMn Compare?
The dominant question for most artists was: How does YInMn Blue relate to the blues I already know?
Most artists positioned YInMn as sitting somewhere between Ultramarine and Cobalt Blue in hue:
- Warmer than Cobalt, which leans green
- Cooler than Ultramarine, which tends toward violet or purple
- Violet bias or reddish undertone was noted by several artists
Technically, artists described YInMn as:
- Opaque to semi-opaque, like Cobalt, and more so than Ultramarine
- Moderate in tinting strength, making it relatively well-behaved in mixtures
- Slightly darker than Cobalt, but lighter than Ultramarine in value
- Lower in chroma when mixed with white—less saturated than expected
Where Artists Found It Useful
Five artists tested all the provided colors on a test substrate, using either a knife or brush-out method. Five others incorporated YInMn into actual paintings, while one artist used it in a small sketch, and one didn’t specify their method.
Applications where YInMn stood out included:
- Skies and blue florals
- As a middle-ground blue
- Mixing distinctive violets
- Creating “natural greens” when mixed with yellow
The Cost Conversation
Of course, no conversation around YInMn is complete without addressing its significantly higher cost compared to other blue pigments.
Here, artists were split:
- Some found it not distinct enough to warrant the price premium
- Others would pay more for it for specific applications
- One artist reflected that “colors are worth what you pay if you need them”—but wasn’t sure YInMn was one of those
- Others flagged the price as prohibitive for everyday or large-scale work
Final Impressions
Feedback on YInMn was mixed but leaned positive. While none of the artists found it to be a must-have replacement for their current blues, many saw value in its subtle differences:
- Several artists found it interesting but not revolutionary
- Some appreciated its unique properties
- A few were enthusiastic about adding it to their palette
- Others didn’t see significant merit over existing blues

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When I look at the swatch tests from the 2024 update by Golden, in comparison to Cobalt and Ultramarine, the YInMn looks like it’s the one that leans green while Cobalt looks like blue-violet in comparison. It’s giving Phthalo in this link and Cobalt doesn’t have a wink of green, nor the Ultramarine. Maybe it’s all in how they look together?
https://goldenartistcolors.com/news/new-yinmn-blue
Hello Dar, when we look at the actual painted swatches of Cobalt Blue, YInMn Blue, and Ultramarine Blue, none of them lean towards green. By eye, YInMn could be considered between the two other colors in terms of color bias. However, keep in mind that every person’s eyes experience color at least slightly differently, and that cameras, screens, and digital color can all be calibrated differently, and that the digital color system is all different from the color of paint.
Yeah this sums up my experience with yinmn exactly, its a nice novelty but it mixes super similarly to ultramarine and all I get is some extra opacity which is nice as a base layer but you lose the versatility of transparency for things other than alla prima.
With shepard supposedly releasing a new cobalt pigment soon that’s just as opaque as yinmn but far cheaper, you will have to wonder how long it will last on the market if this rumor is actually true or not.
Since I adore transparent watercolors, my personal preference when using acrylics is also to paint in a transparent way. However, sometimes starting with an opaque paint can be beneficial. We have found that adding an acrylic medium or gel is an easy approach to transforming an opaque paint into a more transparent one. On the flip side, making a transparent paint more opaque can be difficult, and often involves changing the chroma by adding Titanium White or a Molding Paste.
My most used blue is Manganese. I would appreciate a comparison to that hue.
Hello, Golden does offer a Heavy Body acrylics Manganese Blue Hue and a QoR Watercolor Manganese Blue Hue, which might be helpful. We do not have a Manganese Blue Hue in Williamsburg Oil paint or in PanPastel.