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Using GOLDEN Artist Acrylics in Masterson Sta-Wet® Palettes

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  1. super interesting
    it’s actually quite a problem for miniature painters
    (not the classic one, but the resin/plastic small scale model
    (such as tabletop warhammer 40k stuff
    basically every miniature painter use certain wet palette

    though the paint do keep wet on that wet palette
    but paint’s feel may change
    (absorb too much water and get separated easily
    and not so much information/discussion on that

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    • Hello Nourkias. If the palette is too wet, it will reduce the viscosity of the paints. As the paints absorb some of the water, like you say, they will gradually loosen up the paint over time depending upon amount of water and how long paints sit on a wet palette. There isn’t a whole lot that can be done to mitigate that besides controlling the amount of water used. We hope this article was helpful and let us know if you have more questions! Help@goldenpaints.com

      Scott

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  2. I’ve been using this recipe and been telling people about it since you told me about it in an email.

    So many thought it was too tedious and too much effort until they tried it and found it just was so much better.
    Soflats and fluids still have some issues but most of that comes down to the quality of the parchment people use from what I’m finding as that thick paper it comes with is super tricky to use.

    I sometimes leave the pallet closed for well past the manufacturer recommended length due to getting incredibly busy but its been about a year and still no mold on the sponge.

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    • We are glad this seemed to help when you tested it out. It can require some additional preparation, but it seems to really help! We did out testing on the paper that was supplied with the Sta-Wet palette and had good enough results, but we weren’t painting with it per se. So there may be additional needs based on mixing and working the palette paper more. A year is a very long time and certainly not the norm, but interesting results. We were able to get a few months, but again we had best results within a few weeks.

      Scott

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    • Thanks for first-hand user insights.
      What papers are being used instead of Sta-Wet’s own palette paper? You mention “parchment” and I’d like to know if you mean regular parchment paper for baking? If so, are you aware of which brand(s) work well?

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  3. Scott,
    I agree with the previous comment that the real issue is how much water to add to the sponge. That would be useful information to supplement your article. I add too much and the paints thin out, too little and they dry up. The instructions from Masterson don’t offer much help as you are just squeezing out some of the water. Is there a better more precise technique?

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    • Hello Jay,

      We don’t have a scientific way to managing the water. So much depends upon the type of paint being used and the length of storage within this system. You could formalize it by using weight if you wanted to be precise. After you finish a session you could weight the palette and replenish what is lost to evaporation through use. Simply re-weigh the palette again periodically or prior to using it again and using that amount of water to replenish. You could also use a spray misting bottle and lightly spray the colors with this distilled water mixture with wetting aid or with distilled water generally. We found this was helpful in controlling the amount of water we used, but it can also loosen up the paint a bit. Not sure this solves it, but it is a more formal way to approach how much water you are using. Let us know if you have more questions! Help@goldenpaints.com

      Best,
      Scott

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  4. Helpful and interesting. I pretty quickly did away with the sponge and palette paper and switched to a glass palette from Posh that fit inside the Masterson Sta-Wet box. Underneath the glass palette, I sprinkled some baking soda. Along two sides of the glass, I placed folded paper towels soaked with tap water and a little hydrogen peroxide. The piles of paint went on top of the paper towels and mixes were done on the glass. This setup kept the paint fresh and wet for weeks, but if the mixes were thin, they would dry and I would have to scrape them up. I like this setup better than the sponge and paper. The sponge got sour pretty quickly and I didn’t like the bounce or give when mixing.

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    • Thanks for sharing your experience Allen. We have heard from some artists using the paper towels as well, but not the glass. It makes sense and Sta-Wet recommends the use of Hydrogen Peroxide to help stave off some microbial growth as well. There is certainly some experimentation that can happen to find something that works best for each artists needs! Thanks again for sharing!

      Scott

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    • Q1. What is the point of the baking soda under the glass palette?

      Q2. Regarding the folded paper towels along two sides of the glass palette:

      Are the paper towels located *on the surface* of the glass near the edges of that glass surface?

      Or is the glass palette smaller than the Sta-Wet box, so the paper towels are located *next to* the glass palette?

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  5. Thank you for publicizing this investigation Scott.
    I’ve been using the sta-wet palettes on and off- mostly for mixture storage in between sessions, and once I discovered adding household ammonia to my water sprayers, my issues with mold growth and mixtures going gelatinous have disappeared.
    I even give my jar colors a quick spritz occasionally too, since the tap water I use copiously seems to be highly microbial..

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  6. PS and in earlier experiments, I found that hydrogen peroxide did not really do the trick.
    Much to my chagrin, I tried the ammonia-laced water as a mold preventative for some watercolors that I have stored in small jars, but that was ruinous to the gum Arabic, ouch. Fortunately I only wrecked a couple of colors before realizing what was hoing on..

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    • It is good to know about your experience with Gum Arabic watercolors. Acrylics have some ammonia within them, so the ammonia doesn’t affect them in this way. Glad you did some testing and thanks for sharing your experience!

      Scott

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  7. Very excited to see this article, as I use both the golden and the sta-wet exclusively. I notice that my sponges deteriorate very quickly, holes get eroded here and there. Any idea why this happens?

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    • Hello Paul,

      We sent out an email to you separately. For those with similar experiences, microbial growth, if it develops, can eat the cellulose sponge material. We are not sure what the sponge is made from as is proprietary, but this is one thought. So keeping your eyes on the palette can be helpful and if you run into this you could always try using a small amount of Household Ammonia in the distilled water to raise the pH a bit, which helps. No tap water is exactly alike, so there can be varying results depending upon your water source. Hope this helps!

      Scott

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  8. Thank you for this article, Scott. Golden ‘Just Paint’ articles frequently convey information directly related to my own interests and methods.

    In the course of your experiments did you see any evidence suggesting that the sponge will be damaged by either the Golden Wetting Aid or the Amonia?

    I’m wondering if the Wetting Aid stiffened the sponge, and whether the Amonia might cause the sponge to disintegrate.

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    • Our pleasure Tom. In our testing with Sta-Wet Palettes we didn’t see any issue in the time frame we tested at for the article, which was ~3weeks to a month. The paints were happy and the sponge looked good. Wetting Aid is essentially a surfactant or soap, so this didn’t affect the feel or stiffness of the sponge that we could observe. We did see some stiffness in areas that were low in water though as the sponge began to dry a bit. We saw great paint and sponge performance at ~3weeks time, beyond this is more experimental. Thanks Tom!

      Scott

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  9. Thanks, Scott! I used Master’s palettes quite a bit, but got frustrated with how often the paints would become mildewed or smelly. I’m going to try your distilled water/wetting agent method and hopefully it’ll extend the life of my palette.

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    • We hope this helps, distilled water with a little household ammonia has been helpful in our testing!

      Scott

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  10. Another thing to help with preventing mold is to put a penny underneath the sponge. I hate the a ammonia and peroxide smell and this works way past manufacturers suggested time!

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    • Thanks for sharing your experience Janet, that is interesting as well, we will have to try it out!

      Scott

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  11. This has been one of the most interesting emails I’ve received. I’ve owned this palette for decades but have been away from painting almost as long. Glad I didn’t throw it out!!

    It’s great to know that you can use ammonia or peroxide without damaging the paints. Very helpful.

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  12. Scott,
    Is the distilled water and wetting agent used on the palette paper as well as the sponge? The manufacturer says to use hot water on the paper. How did you do that with the distilled water mix? Did you microwave it first?
    Jay

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    • Hello Jay,

      We followed the manufacturers recommendations pretty closely. We boiled water and soaked the paper separately in a shallow tray. We did not microwave it. We tried two approaches to the sponge. We rinsed it with tap water real well in one test and the wrung it out carefully, before rehydrating it with the Distilled Water and Wetting Aid solution. We also tried letting the sponge fully dry after rinsing it and hydrating it with the solution once we prepared the paper. We didn’t see any real difference in results with either approach. To hydrate the sponge we used a 32oz container filled with distilled water and added one additional ounce of Wetting Aid. From there we got the sponge wet and wrung out excess if we over did it. Then placed the paper on top before adding paints. Periodically we would mist over the color and paper or add more to the sponge as needed. Controlling the amount of water in the sponge will help with the consistency you hope to maintain for your paints. There is certainly some trial and error needed to get that part just right. Keeping your eyes on the palette is helpful. Hope this helps!

      Scott

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  13. I’ve been doing the same for quite a while now, and it really helped with the mold. I keep my paint in the palettes for months with good success. I also minimize the amount of water in the sponge. I usually have three palettes going at once, and use them for both Open and Heavy body. For Open I don’t use the sponge, and I put small balls of paper towels in the corners or slightly under the paper to keep some moisture in there. I spray lightly before closing.

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    • Thanks Katherine! That is a good tip on the OPEN, we will have to try that. Since open is so good at holding onto moisture and is slow drying to begin with, having a small source not directly in contact with the paint may be enough to draw moisture to the paint. We haven’t tested this, but it sounds like one we should!

      Scott

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