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Changes to Williamsburg Van Dyke Brown, French Cassel Earth and French Noir Indien

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  1. Hello

    I’ve never used Van Dyke or French Cassel, so one might say I don’t really mind. However since I’m quite a fan of Williamsburg :-), I might as well mention, that there (from my point of view) two possible sources of this pigment; maybe you could try them:

    1.Kremer pigmente offers Van Dyck Brown, here in Europe and also in the US: https://shop.kremerpigments.com/en/pigments/pigments-of-modern-age/carbonic-blackening/5065/van-dyck-brown Also there is a sample of paint from that pigment: https://artrelatedblog.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/asphaltum-van-dyke-brown-cassel-earth-and-anthracite/

    2. Natural pigments also has Cassel Earth from Europe: https://www.naturalpigments.com/cassel-earth-pigment.html

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    • Hello Ivan,
      Thanks for your comment. This is great information for our customers who might want to make their own paint using this pigment. While Bituminous Earth can still be purchased through Kremer and Natural Pigments, its availability does not seem to be supported by larger industry in general. There may be small sources that provide this pigment for years to come, but we didn’t want to be switching from one source to another as more of this resource is depleted or no longer offered by pigment manufacturers. We decided it was more important to launch this new blend to provide a consistent product in feel and color that Williamsburg users can depend on for decades to come.
      We hope you enjoy!
      Greg

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  2. I had a play in your virtual colour mixer with heavy body colours. I got a dark brown which tints to grey with this combination:

    Red Oxide – 4 parts
    Bone Black – 4 parts
    Phthalo Green BS – 1 part

    Might help 🙂

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    • Hello Richard,
      That is a really nice mixture – similar to Mars Violet or Red Umber in Williamsburg. You will find that our new Van Dyke Brown is much darker in the masstone, almost like a warm black. During testing, we were able to find mixtures that provided a neutral tint, but they didn’t have the reddish undertone we were after. We also wanted to minimize the number of pigments used in this color, as it becomes more challenging to match the standard each time we run a batch with more pigments.
      Thanks for your comment!
      Best,
      Greg

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  3. I was sincerely disappointed with the new formula for Van Dyke Brown. Because of your past formula was so outstanding, i only bought Van Dyke Brown from Williamsburg. Now your formula is just like all the others, and certainly does not function the same. Very disappointing.

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    • Hello Pat,
      We are sorry to hear about your disappointment. We knew this would be a real loss for some. Unfortunately, we are unable to get this pigment any longer and there are truly no other single pigments or blends that function the way Bituminous Earth does. The warm masstone, neutral tint and weak tinting strength could not be found with any other blends. Of course, there are colors that matched one or the other, but not all three of these qualities. Every now and again we are faced with pigment availability issues that leave us no choice but to discontinue a color. We are also saddened by the loss of this very unique color.
      Greg

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